BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

slingback — Sun, 20 May 2012 09:17:13 GMT

Hi Laura,

Did you ever find out how to set the document defaults for font/paragraph with VBA?

Valgerd

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

lleader — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:46:02 GMT

This post was extremely helpful to me, I finally "get" why the font sometimes changes on me when I insert a table.

I hope this thread is still being monitored.

My frustration is that I do NOT want the table default to be different than Normal style. I have my document defaults set to what I want -- Times New Roman, 12, and nothing defined in Normal. When I insert a table, I get 10 point font.

I don't see a way to define a default for tables. I can change the Table Grid style after applying it to a table, I don't see a way to get at the Table Normal style (w/out VBA).

I understand that if I define the font size in Normal, that will dominate in my table. But I can't find a way to put the 12 point size IN Normal when Normal matches the document default.

I can modify the Table Grid style but I don't see a way to save that in a Quick Style Gallery.

I'd like to be able to be in a document and pull in a style set where the default font in the table will match the default for the document. Is there a way to do this?

I'd also like to be able to set the document defaults for font and paragraph with VBA after the document has been created, but I understand that's not what this thread is about. Just thought I'd throw that out there...

Thank you so much for the post, I'm going to go search for more or yours!

Laura

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

Yann — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:06:04 GMT

We have a large number of set templates and I'm trying to set a table style, but for whatever reasons the table even if I have defined paragraph spacing, the default Normal spacing is applied regardless (I've change the Normal default spacing from 12pt after to 12pt before). Any assistance will be much appreaciated. Thanks

Yann

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

Klaus Linke — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:58:11 GMT

> When you keep the Normal Style empty by > default, this just works because Normal > text outside of tables gets its properties > from the Document Defaults, and Normal text > inside of tables gets its properties from > the Table Style. Apart from the fact that you can't customize the Normal paragraph style when you use table styles, that scheme works reasonably well. One "issue" that remains is that Ctrl+Q (ResetPara) used inside a table resets the paragraphs to the document default settings, not to the table style settings. So with most built-in table styles (with 0 pt "space after" and single line spacing), Ctrl+Q applies 10 pt after and a 1.15 multiple line spacing. BTW, you can then use "remove paragraph formatting" in the Styles Inspector to get rid of that... So it seems that the code for ResetPara (Ctrl+Q) may be in need of an overhaul. - Klaus

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

wrdblog — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:06:34 GMT

Hi Brian - Check-out: blogs.msdn.com/.../595963.aspx - Jonathan Bailor (MS)

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

Brian — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:18:33 GMT

Why is there absolutely 0 posts about blogging in Word. You've got a whole category devoted to it but not a single post since 06. I'm having a problem trying to open existing posts where it is only showing the last 20 posts and none prior to that when I try and "open existing posts". There seems to be no discussion on blogging from Word anywhere on the web, I would have thought that I would at least find some interesting blogging tips here...

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

Janet Schorr (MS) — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:41:18 GMT

Ruth -

Thanks for your feedback. I've double-checked all border output to PDF files, and you are correct that the wavy line borders don't display in the PDF files. This is a known issue with our Save as PDF feature, and exists for both page borders and table borders. We don't have a workaround for the issue right now. The other borders should all be saving to the PDF file correctly, but it may not be obvious at an initial glance. Some of the borders look like a solid line, but if you zoom in, you'll see the actual pattern on-screen; printing the PDF file will also print the borders in the same way that they print from the Word file. The discrepancy between what you see on-screen between the two applications results from a difference in how the applications render lines. Word has a fixed minimum width for displaying lines; anything below this minimum width is displayed wider than it actually is. PDF, on the other hand, does not have a minimum width, so the lines are rendered at the actual width, and what displays on-screen may even vary with the PDF viewer you are using to display the file. Your best workaround for ensuring that the on-screen display of the PDF matches the on-screen display of the Word document is to increase the line width of the border to 1pt or higher for those borders that are made up of multiple lines. We haven't made any changes to how we output borders since we released the Save as PDF feature, so I am not sure why you are seeing different results on different machines. However, I suspect that you may have been using a third-party application, such as Adobe Acrobat Pro, to save out your PDF files, and this may have been removed when your husband was removing things from the machine.

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

wrdblog — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:38:40 GMT

Hi John - Thanks John. I'm not sure I can do justice to your question in a comment…so I’ll queue it up for a future post. Thanks for the great question. -Jonathan Bailor (MS)

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

John Federico — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:09:06 GMT

Great series. Would you please also elaborate on numbering in Word 2007. Especially the difference between using a numbered style where the paragraph indents are set by the style vs. right clicking and using "adjust list indents" (which doesn't appear to be handled by styles) and how that affects such things as restarting or continuing numbering. This whole procedure isn't very intuitive. I have also had problems with list styles disconnecting from the associated paragraph/linked styles. Is there some way to set this up to be more stable? Thanks again. -John

re: BEHIND THE CURTAIN: STYLES, DOC DEFAULTS, STYLE SETS, AND THEMES

wrdblog — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:25:13 GMT

Hi Julie – Here’s a way to make your custom style set and only your custom style set available to all students who may log in on any one of a dozen computers:

- create a custom style set

- have it in use in the template (i.e. pick it as the “active style set”)

- show the styles pane

- click the manage styles button

- click the restrict tab

- check the Block Quick Style Set switching box

- save the template All documents created from this template will have your custom style set in the Style Gallery and your students won’t be able to change it. Does this help? - Jonathan Bailor (MS)