Print Your Publications Professionally

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

Broken — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:26:04 GMT

Guys.... what's wrong with you, removing essential CMYK support. Do you even have real DTP designers in your team? People that ever worked with a typography? Ever performed pre-press?

I don't know why I bother. it's clearly that instead of trying to make Publisher a contender with Indesign, you "simplify" it to a toy level. Lucky me I have the Adobe application to work with, if I would have to earn my living with Publisher 2013, I'd starve.

Next time, please hire serious DTP people to guide your development.

Take care.

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

DavidF — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:49:44 GMT

Amir,

I will add my vote that this was a bad decision by MSFT. No matter how you try to spin it removing features and functionality is not a good thing. I can see no rational reason or any advantage to any user for removing the ability to create a publication in composite CMYK format and removing the optional color modes from Publisher 2013.

The user had the ability to create a PDF file with Pub 2007 and 2010 and if they were not interested in single, process or spot color modes, they just ignored that functionality. Removing the optional color mode only diminishes the functionality of Publisher for the more serious user by taking away the control they need over their final publication.

As both Jan and Paul have suggested at best it will increase their costs of production and at worse the printers will reject the project entirely. Without being able to control the color mode of their work the serious user will be alienated and perhaps forced to abandon Publisher and move to a different desktop publishing program, or at best refuse to 'downgrade' to Publisher 2013.

MSFT did not improve Publisher by removing the optional color modes; they diminished it. In my view this is simply a 'downgrade' to Publisher 2013. It seems to me that MSFT has abandoned the serious DTP user. What a shame...

DavidF

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

haywardpw — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:30:37 GMT

Amir,

I would like to add my dissatisfaction with this change to Jan's. I produce professional DM and sometimes use MS publisher to do this. The print houses I work with in the UK all require the final files to be sent over in CMYK with all the relevant colour data.

It's all well and good dismissing the requirement with "Printers today have very sophisticated registration and conversion tools for PDFs, obviating the need for you to worry about color models..." but when a printer specifies a colour mode they require to a content creator, but I can no longer support it what should I do? Tell them they need to become more sophisticated?

The printer will simply charge extra to process the job as it will have to go through their graphic design department. You are severely damaging a perfectly good product by removing something that worked well to begin with. If this feature is removed I simply cannot purchase Publisher 13 as the work I create on it will not be accepted by the printers I work with.

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

Amir[MSFT] — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:46:36 GMT

Hi Jan,

Unfortunately it is not possible to save your publication in CMYK color mode however, as we mentioned in the post you can specify your desired colors and we will save this information in the publication.

There is no tool for forcing all the colors in the publication to be in a specific color model automatically and you have to change colors to a specific color mode manually.

Thanks,

Amir MSFT

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

Jan Kučera — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:44:55 GMT

Hi Amir,

okay, but all commercial printers in my country I ever worked with required me to send a publication in composite CMYK format, so am I screwed now?

If anyone offeres to do the required pre-printing conversions, they charge a considerable fee.

Second, such conversion at the printer site usually resulted in undesired results. To prevent this, I want to use CMYK colors directly. You say I can do this manually and they will be preserved. However, if I include a clipart it will be automatically in RGB I guess and the only possibility would be break it, go through all the shapes and manually changing the color model to CMYK... correct?

Third, how do I convert all the colors to grayscale or the spot color(s)?

Third, there is no reason with removing the publication color model to remove the color settings dialog. How can I check now which colors are in use, and more importantly, to globally change one color to a different one?

Jan

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

Amir[MSFT] — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:43:23 GMT

Hi Jan,

The output will always be in RGB mode and the user can’t change that. However, as it was mentioned in the blog post you can add your CMYK and spot colors and take your publication to the print shop.

You can also ask them to convert the RGB to any other color mode that you desire. The PDF file has all the information that they would need to the conversion.

You can always save your document in XPS format using save as menu in the backstage.

Thanks,

Amir MSFT

re: Print Your Publications Professionally

Jan Kučera — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:41:44 GMT

Although preserving the colors in specified models is a good enough to drop the publication color model settings, how do I control in which color model the output will be?

Also, I strongly believe XPS output should be available at least just as the PDF one, how do I get a XPS CMYK file of my publication? It even does not have any problems with transparency!