Take the Access survey

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Vladimir Cvajniga — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:50:51 GMT

Zen:

There' no Ribbon & navigation pane in A97. etc., etc., etc., ...

re: Take the Access survey

Vladimir Cvajniga — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:49:24 GMT

Zen:

A2007 is much slower that A97.

re: Take the Access survey

Vladimir Cvajniga — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:45:51 GMT

Zen:

A97 is much more stable than A2007. Others say A97 is a "rok-solid" application.

A2007 is not fully compatible with previous versions of Access. A2007 is buggy, even after SP1.

A2007's help is out of any use, at least in MSO 2007 CZ.

re: Take the Access survey

Craig Alexander Morrison — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:59:27 GMT

I would argue that Access 97 and Access 2003 are the best versions, some say Access 2003 edges it slightly although of the two only Access 2003 has the occasional crash (in development only).

re: Take the Access survey

Zen — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:44:00 GMT

Vladimir Cvajniga: >

A2007 for the pwer users A97 for the heavyweights > Why, in your opinion, Access 97 is better for developers? Bye

re: Take the Access survey

Vladimir Cvajniga — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:20:34 GMT

Ken H:

A2007 for the pwer users

A97 for the heavyweights :-)

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Ken H — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:04:03 GMT

is there a simple solution to this ? perhaps we need a "lite" version of access for the pwer users and a full blown version for the heavyweights - could be a two tier pricing approach as well - will satisfy the sales department

re: Take the Access survey

Craig Alexander Morrison — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:10:37 GMT

MVF's (Multi Value Fields) are the dumbest thing in ACE and are there to support the non-relational thinking that is part of Sharepoint and no doubt people who do not have a sound grasp of Relational Database Design. Using Access without that grasp is like using Word if you are illiterate. BTW does the next version of ACE expose the MVF construct in the Relationships Window as was promised by one of the Program Managers a few years back. To quote from my post in August 2006 on the newsgroups They say this will (as opposed to may) be available in a "future" version of Access (Access 14?). Suraj Poozhiyil (Program Manager, Microsoft) has said that the main reasons for the MVF and the lack of representation of the MVF in the Relationships

Window are: 1. for compatibility with SharePoint. (not the most popular product in the world, to say the least)

2. this release is focussed on power users rather than developers.

3. and they could not give a F--- about developers that insist on using Jet/ACE (I made that one up, didn't I?)

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Allyson — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:31:30 GMT

There is one way to secure the future of Access -interaction over the web. If Access 2007 could do that (efficiently) now it would be a world beater. and would start to make people who look down there noses at it to produce business systems think a little differently.

re: Take the Access survey

Vladimir Cvajniga — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:51:09 GMT

Allan: AFAIK there's no official MS bug reporting site. In this blog I've asked several times if there's such a place - Clint's response was to e-mail the bugs. When I created my "A2007 bugs & issues & wishes database" I was asked to consult the problems with local MS authorities. No wonder - at the moment there are almost 170 issues in my database... and still growing. Anything we try in A2007 is wrong - only a while ago a colleague of mine has tried to export a linked table to Excel... and he's got an error, of course. So we're going to explore what's happening and I'll probably add a new record to my "bug database". I hope I'll soon have some response from MS CZ tech help. IMHO, Clint may be right - local tech help can clear up some problems, or, at least, consult them with local area offices (Eastern Europe). Unfortunatelly, MS CZ has no Access developer it their team!!! :-(